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BuffyGC asked Boris_ commented

[Bushtrips] Runway selection Leg2++

Hello,

Since SU10/SU11 the start positions for the Leg2+ are determined by the sim (with the known bug: Spawning Position Bushtrips (Leg 2++)).

Here I would like to ask if there is any way to manipulate or influence the selected runway when continuing the Bush Trip?

If not, how does the sim determine the runway to continue on?

Happy New Year to everyone and thanks in advance.
BuffyGC

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Boris_ avatar image Boris_ ♦♦ commented ·
Hi @BuffyGC @ProfSC,

A dev is looking at this issue,
I will let you know when I have more info ;)

Regards,
Boris

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Boris_ answered Boris_ rolled back

Hello @BuffyGC ,

As it is hardcoded, there is no way to edit the spawn on 2nd+ legs , but I can tell you that we take the center position of the runway - 0.5 * runway length.

Edit : I just talked with the developer and this behavior has been fixed for SU12 ( I tested it successfully ;) ). So from SU12 on, the starting position for legs2+ will be based on the runway start like in freeflight.

Regards,
Boris

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BuffyGC answered Boris_ commented

Hello @Boris_
I hope you had a good start to the new year. Thank you very much for the reply.

In this thread I am talking more about runway selection, that is which runway to depart from.
I have received reports from users that the selection is not upwind, too short runways are selected, or even a runway in the water is selected even though there are paved runways for the wheeled aircraft.

For example, a user creates a mission with the Concorde and lands in MMAA. The short runway is selected for takeoff, which is too short for the aircraft.
Another one landed with the DA62 in PHNL and found the aircraft on Runway 26, which is in the water.

I don't have any example trips to verify this.

BuffyGC

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Boris_ avatar image Boris_ ♦♦ commented ·

Hi @BuffyGC ,

My bad, I missread the "runway selection" ^^

If you have a package that can reproduce these behaviors, I could test it and ask the developer for more information about it ;)

Regards,
Boris

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BuffyGC avatar image BuffyGC Boris_ ♦♦ commented ·

Hi @Boris_ ,

no apologies needed.
I've just uploaded a package to reproduce the issue in PHNL with the water runway.

Thanks again,

BuffyGC

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BuffyGC avatar image BuffyGC Boris_ ♦♦ commented ·

Hi @Boris_

I'm not sure, if the changes in 1.31.21.0 should address the issue:
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/beta-update-1-31-21-0-march-9th-2023/580404

Airport

  • Fixed the possibility to set a seaplane base as departure without a seaplane


But I can tell you, I'm sitting on departure of leg2 in PHNL-Honolulu I'm still in the water with my DA62.

BuffyGC

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Boris_ avatar image Boris_ ♦♦ BuffyGC commented ·

Hi @BuffyGC ,

You are right and a ticket is still open in our backlog about this.

As soon as I have new information on it I will let you know ;)


Regards,
Boris

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Hi @Boris_

I am designing a 'Round the World' trip for the DC Designs Concorde and have had similar problems. I get the water take off in Honolulu and a 2,000 foot grass strip in Christchurch for example. Concorde needs a minimum of 9,000 feet to take off in normal circumstances. I know Concorde is an extreme example but it clearly demonstrates the problems people may experience. The PDF file shows the ideal runway and the one assigned by MSFS for legs 2-11 of the trip, I hope it makes sense.

Runway Choice.pdf

concorde-honolulu.jpgPlease let me know if I can provide more information.


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