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NickW77 asked FlyingRaccoon answered

User created groups in scenery editor not working correctly in 1.18.13.0.

Hello,

There is an issue with user created groups in the latest version of the sim. Their names do not appear by default (as seen in first screenshot), and only appear when you search up the groups in the filter (as seen in their second screenshot). Even then they do not display their contents properly, as in despite being collapsed, they still display their contents, and sometimes refuse to uncollapse in general.

There is also an issue where with each group, items listed in the scenery editor move to the left, causing the to go off screen. This is visible happening in the second screenshot and is much more prominent in the third screenshot. Resizing the window to be larger doesn't fix the issue and just displays more space on the right as shown with the third screenshot. Horizontal scroll can only scroll towards the right, and eventually down the list they become hidden completely as it moves to the left where it is impossible to view since you cannot scroll there. As seen in the 3rd screenshot, something is selected but obstructed. It is almost as if the direction in which the groups are displayed is reversed, with each subgroup moving a position to the left instead of to the right as it should.

In the second screenshot it shows how the groups are displayed with a filter in the scenery editor and still displaying some or all of their contents despite being collapsed, unfortunately I don't have a screenshot to show what this would've looked like prior to the update.

I have been able to recreate this starting with a new scenery in version 1.18.13.0.

To recreate the issue:

  1. Open a scenery project or start a new project
  2. Place down an airport object and fill in all the mandatory fields.
  3. Place down an apron, taxiway point, painted line etc.
  4. Select the placed item and create a new group, name it anything and set the target group to be the airport object group.
  5. The new group will show up as seen in the fourth screenshot, without a name and displaying the item within it next to it, not under.
  6. As you create more groups like this they move to the left as seen in the fifth screenshot, eventually they move off screen as seen in the last screenshot, this becomes a huge issue if your scenery has say 60 groups.

Please ignore the incorrectly configured airport object, it does not have an effect on this issue.

It is also currently not possible to add more items to these groups once they are created.

Are you guys having any problems with this on your side?

Kind regards,

Nick



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FlyingRaccoon answered

@maxx
Hello

This will be fixed with World Update 6 coming at the end of the month.
Unfortunately, there are no workarounds apart from manually removing the groups from the xml file.

Regards,
Sylvain

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tsgucci answered

We do have editor problems with sim update V since the early access.

See here: https://devsupport.flightsimulator.com/questions/1410/editor-problems-11830.html

and here: https://devsupport.flightsimulator.com/questions/1451/problems-with-projected-mesh.html


Actually I have similar problem like you. I cannot uncollapse the Airport group. It collapses right away back, moreover if I try to open the airport group several times I have CTD.

As you can see in the first link, they think it is some kind of file format problem. We will experiment with this in the coming days.

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devmode_player answered

I can confirm, also I've FlightSimulator.exe CTDs caused by .NET Runtime while trying to expand airport group in scenery editor

the only way I've managed to expand the Airport group is to manually remove the group entries in the source XML file

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FlyingRaccoon answered

Hello.
We have been able to reproduce part of this issue (not CTDs yet) and have our scenery editor dev investigating the issue.

Regards,
Sylvain

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devmode_player answered

Hi Sylvain,

don't mind about CTDs, it seems the core problem with SU5, not just scenery editor related

best

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WombiiActual answered maxx commented

I couldn't expand the Airport group in my project. Edited out all groupindex references from the xml and it now seems to work fine. These were groups created by sorting by type and saving the hierarchy. In visual code use find and replace with this regex string: groupindex="[\d]+" and replace with nothing.

edit: I then tried sorting by type and creating a new hierarchy again and it again refuses to expand the airport group.

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RoscoHead answered

I can also confirm the same issue, although I'm not getting CTD. I have to expand the airport group several times before it displays the contents, first few times it just contracts again immediately. When it eventually expands, all my groups are shown expanded and cannot be contracted, and each group moves a bit further over to the left than the one above it.

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FlyingsCool answered

I noticed that you are using an Apron Rectangle. I wonder if that's causing an issue? They've been quite buggy for a while. (i.e. the side handles don't work, and the corner handles resize way too fast for instance). Perhaps there's a general corruption of Apron Rectangles causing issues? Probably a dumb idea, but, throwing it out there. (Toss /----\ splat!)

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maxx answered maxx edited

We are having the same issue, and hence haven't been able to get into the scenery editor for some time now!

We have the exact same issue reported by FlyingsCool.

@FlyingRaccoon is there any progress with this fix? Sorry to @ you, but it is starting to take a toll on the end users, as we can't provide any info, updates or solutions.

Any update would be much appreciated. If you need info from us as well, I can happily provide anything needed to help.

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