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ftsxfreelw asked Caspajack edited

Since 1.25.7 Drone Collision Mesh active with Collision Material

Hello,

Since version 1.25.7 all my objects with the texture set to "Collision Material" also activate the "Drone Collision Mesh" function, which is annoying for walking in buildings in Drone mode and if I deactivate the "Collision Material" function it is unrealistic to be able to cross the objects without crashing !

Regards,

ftsxfreelw


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Boris_ answered WombiiActual commented

Hello @ftsxfreelw ,

We have modified the behavior of the camera with the collision property.
The only option is to change the shape of your collision mesh to allow camera movements in your buildings


Regards,
Boris




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I LOVE this feature! I can finally block the drone cam out of inaccessible areas of buildings. The only thing I wish was different is if it actually behaved like a wall and stopped the movement instead of popping the camera over the top. This behaviour can be a bit disorienting. Maybe it would also be nice to have the option of disabling collision on devcam.

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superspud answered superspud edited

So this is now permanent with no plans to roll it back?

This kills off plenty of exploration fun. And it also applies to the developer camera which makes it a full blown pain up the posterior.

It's the same with collision boxes made by the Blender exporter.

V impressive how many times the makers have managed to add to the grind, and it's usually a lovely surprise too.

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rhumbaflappy answered RoscoHead commented

Having the camera react to collisions in DevMode is just stupid. Sorry, but it is just stupid.

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I wouldn't say it's stupid, but an option to enable / disable the dev camera collision would be nice.
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Boris_ answered

Hi @ftsxfreelw ,
Just to clarify, when you say "which is annoying for walking in buildings in Drone mode" you mean the "Showcase" camera ?


Regards,
Boris

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ftsxfreelw answered

Hi Boris,

Yes that's right !

ftsxfreelw




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mamudesign answered

@Boris can you be a Little bit more specific with the reason of this (undocumented?) design choice?


Are you telling us that

when we want to add collision to Building/terminal with a detailed internal

we Need to create Doors/holes where the drone (showcase camera) can enter to explore

(This implies, for former single collision shape, create at least 4 of them)



Can you tell us if this new behaviour is related to some upcoming improvements with the collision handling of Airport vehicles ?

Or maybe some new way to Explore the world? Surprise Surprise Jorg would say :)



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rotornut44 answered

As others have said, I would definitely say if this is kept, we need an option to disable it. I have a few buildings with interiors that also have landable roofs. I would like to keep the roofs landable, but you can no longer navigate the buildings as the camera just snaps to the roof. The same goes with 3D trees I use in bulk in the sceneries. I can no longer navigate through them as I just get popped up on top of the canopies. Obviously I want to keep collisions enabled here as an obstacle.

Also as mentioned, as I'm panning around with the developer camera, I find it colliding with objects, making it hard to get an angle I may need to adjust or place an object.

Dont get me wrong, I like the idea of having control over where the camera can go, but there are proving to be some situations where it just gets in the way.

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Gobby answered

Same problem here. I need interiors fully accessible to cameras, but the building needs to have working collisions with aircraft. This doesn't seem possible any more.

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WombiiActual answered

Assuming collision detection is needed to let players know they've struck a wing on a wall while taxiing, and not catered to players intentionally crashing into buildings, I'm not personally having any issue taking 5 minutes to drag some approximate collision boxes around. In most cases they'd be needed on the roof, on corners and maybe some strategically placed poles or barriers on certain walls.

Landable roofs are also no issue. They can be a separate box on the roof with an open interior below (tested).

Unless I'm missing something obvious. (I agree an option to disable for devcam would be nice).

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FlyingRaccoon answered ftsxfreelw commented

Hello everyone.

We're looking into it.
No decisions made yet but most likely, a dedicated collision flag will be created to handle this possibility.

Regards,
Sylvain

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Hello,

it's a very good news !

Regards

Laurent

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