1,500 Points of Interest (POI) and... No Interest?

MSFS customers like to find interesting scenery points, as evidenced by the
effort and care Asobo puts into their POI and Bush Trips. I think they’ve
added 83 POI in the latest world update. My products have documented over
1,500 Points of Interest in the magnificent default scenery, including a
percentage of the hand made objects, and Asobo has no interest in allowing
customers to access them in the marketplace? The marketplace induction team
sent me here to get an answer. A few examples of the 1,500 + POI I have
documented in flights, videos, descriptions and image
galleries
[I previously posted about this here](https://devsupport.flightsimulator.com/idea/6807/support-pln-for-
mission-and-activity-products.html)

Stating that “Asobo has no interest in …” is pure speculation. What is true
though is that we do not have unlimited resources - those available are used
on topics that are discussed and prioritized between us and Microsoft, every
decision being largely influenced by the community. The only thing I can say
is that, although it may change in the future, supporting flight plans in the
MarketPlace is not one of our priorities right now. Best regards, Eric / Asobo

Maybe you can create a toolbar panel where users can select a tour. When
selected it will load the flightplan in the user’s plane and show a
description of the tour in the panel.

Hi Eric, Thank you very much for taking the time to address this question.
Eric / Asobo > “What is true though is that we do not have unlimited
resources - those available are used on topics that are discussed and
prioritized between us and Microsoft, every decision being largely influenced
by the community.”
Thanks, yes I do appreciate something of the complexity of
the project and the vast effort required to create and maintain it. I’ve been
publishing in print, on television and on the web about sims since 1998 and
MSFS 2020 is the realisation of all my sim dreams! I only wish to make it
accessible to more pilots. Regarding resources (for testing), the pln format
has been extensively tested and documented by myself in more than 700 videos
which are on YouTube
.
Customers have flown thousands of the flights, and in all that not one .pln
flight has failed. The pln file is loaded into the sim via the LOAD FROM THIS
PC dialogue. So all I am asking the MSFS marketplace has to do is put the
files anywhere on the customer’s device. __ Eric / Asobo > “The only thing I
can say is that, although it may change in the future, supporting flight plans
in the MarketPlace is not one of our priorities right now.”
Obviously I hope
that does change. I see it as a win/win situation.

Thanks for the suggestion, I do appreciate it!

" all I am asking the MSFS marketplace has to do is put the files anywhere on
the customer’s device
" This is probably where the issue comes from: you seem
to assume that what you describe is a simple thing to do - but it’s not. If
the Marketplace interface requires a new category for this kind of add-on (and
I believe it should), it would at the very least involve the SDK team (for the
Project Editor), the Marketplace team (for ingestion) and the UI team (for the
in-game Marketplace pages). We also need to consider the console version of
the platform: if your .pln files are distributed through packages, how can
simmers select them? There’s no File Explorer on consoles and the current
interface to save/load flight plans would quickly become difficult to use with
lots of flight plan packages installed. It means we probably need some kind of
interface to browse installed flight plans and filter them, which in turns
leads to more work for the UI team. Hope this will help explaining why your
suggestion is not that straightforward to implement. Best regards, Eric /
Asobo

Hi Eric, I believe most here, like me, are certainly appreciating all your
efforts and your time, there is no question about this. After all, we’re all
more or less developers here, and we certainly understand the complexities
you’re dealing with, and we should understand each other intentions are only
for the better. I also read that you’re decision making process is largely
influenced by the community, and to this extent, I think this would certainly
be important the 3rd party developer community is feeling the same
consideration, both when discussing possible enhancements or new SDK supported
features, and when dealing with the Market place application process. I
believe many are trying to reach out to you (Microsoft/Asobo) in order to
build a fruitful and mutually beneficial relationship in fact. Considering
you’re also limited on resources, the 3rd party developer community is a
talented pool with decades of experience in the field, and maybe forging more
of these relationships with more of us might be a key.

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I second these comments.

Once again Eric, I appreciate your time. Regarding there being no file
selector on consoles, I did notice at least on the PC version there is now the
option to load flight plans from the XBox cloud storage. Does the XBox have
that option too? My thought was for the Marketplace to put the plans in the
user’s XBox Cloud storage and then each user could access them there, on XBox
or PC. (I say all this knowing nothing of XBox architecture.) Regarding
category, my opinion FWIW is that Mission would cover it. Thanks again.

I can’t help to think about this from a different angle as well: @EPellissier
does it mean the game will always be limited to the common denominator of the
Xbox and the PC, and there is no hope of having PC only SDK extensions, even
if such extensions are providing more capabilities because they’d support
things we can only do on a PC vs a console? In other words, is one dragging
back the other (this can go both ways), or is there a chance both have
divergent paths for a certain number of features?

Jorg Neumann has clarified for us the question of whether MSFS development is
tied to XBox:

" There is nothing we do that doesn’t come to all platforms.

Literally nothing." In this June 22nd, 2022 interview with HeliSimmer (at
this timestamp)