It was for all 3rd Party content, but maybe you are thinking of another CFG?
Best regards,
Eric / Asobo
It was for all 3rd Party content, but maybe you are thinking of another CFG?
Best regards,
Eric / Asobo
Can you please clarify is it already happened, or we can expect it in the future?
To make question specific - I am 3rd party developer and want to create gyrocopter aircraft. I wish to re-use model exterior.xml and interior.xml of existing gyrocopter so it will save my time with animations and instruments configure. But when I check bluemesh_magni_m24 aircraft folder in Projector these files can not be opened. Can we expect all XML, CFG and GLTF files of FS2024 default edition aircraft will be unlocked, or just some of them?
I think youâll find that many people disagree with this, as does the law. Thatâs like saying that since music is written by everyone with the same rules, that itâs not copywriteable. Letâs appreciate what Microsoft and Asobo have given us and leave it at that.
Iâll explain:
For more than 20 years, Microsoft flight simulator has been unofficially used by flight instructors and flight schools.
In all those versions, starting with FS2000 and even earlier, it was possible to edit the flight dynamics of the aircraft, their behavior.
Without this, the simulator could not be used for training.
Personally, as a flight instructor, I have made such edits to dozens of aircraft in Microsoft flight simulator and also in Xplane over the decades, because most of the time, the flight dynamics are not accurate to how the specific aircraft reacts in the air and also some kinds of parameters need to be adjusted to the hardware equipment used.
I have also built add-ons for the simulator. The real protect should be for the visual model, not for the flight model⊠at least not in Microsoft models.
I guess if Apple will release flight simulator, all will be protected
So the real protect should be for the videos, not the music?
I understand whatâs been going on with the tacit permission of Microsoft, but, you do understand the ramifications of what youâre saying?
I mean, if the authors involved allow it, all the power to you, but youâre not entitled to anything here just because it was allowed in the past. But, itâs not up to me to be responding here.
You can still write your own flight models without access to their files.
I agree with this 100%.
Must I add, I personally value my time in this life. And I value my work.
As an aircraft developer myself, itâs very easy to copy someone elseâs flightmodel and alter it and claim you did it, this applies to many other files, etc.
The sad part is that most of the community arenât speaking about this and bypass the acknowledgement of the hard work some of us who do this for a living have to endure in order for someone else to dive in and benefit on our xmlâs, cfgâs files.
We have the tools to make planes fly. Letâs use them.
Then again, if your flight mode is PERFECT, then anyone modding it is only going to make it imperfect.
However, of someone copies your flight model, and mods it, improving it, then as the original copyright owner, you probably have the right to incorporated their mods back into your flight model, and EVERYONE wins, including you, the original designer, as someone did that work to improve the flight model (for YOU) effectively for FREE.
I personally do not believe in free services from a group of individuals who have probably never flown a real aircraft in their life but i get what you mean.
Nevertheless, I 100% disagree with you. The fact that the mod was âimprovedâ and i can use it for âFreeâ isnât motivational.
Thatâs like someone assuming they know you based on what theyâve seen of you in social media and they can âfixâ you.
Thereâs more layers to this.
BUT IF the modders are real-world pilots with thousands of hours of real world experience and they reach out to the internet explaining in specific details and video footage as to why theyâre mod is superior to the one I worked with hand-in-hand with other real world pilots, then MAYBE we can let things roll.
You can always create your own flight model for a plane. You know that. We arenât entitled to use peopleâs work to start with. If they offer it, thank you.
Plenty of authors do. Which is great. Open source is a wonderful thing. But Iâve got nothing against people whoâd rather not share their work. Lots of good reasons for that.
So what youâre saying is that they use MSFS as a commercial training tool?
I think those CFIâs need to re-read the EULA.
In a bottom line, at least for me,
FS2020 Cessna 172 flies more like reallife than the FS2024 C172.
Both in terms of aircraft performance and controls responses.
The reason is also that the simulator itself has undergone a certain evolution in addition to the fixes I made to the aircraft.
Now in FS2024 when everything is encrypted, I will have to wait for the goodwill of Microsoft or Asobo to fix the aircraft and that can take time.
Also xplane, fsx, fs2004, p3d the aircrafts were not accurate but can be fixed
Oh, we get why you want to modify themâŠ
That was never a question.
The amount of damage that it would cause to the sim and community if they kept everything encrypted would be horrendous. Modders, and people in our community love to help and make things better, because at the end of the day it benefits EVERYONE. If this doesnât happen I may be on 2020 full time. Please unlock everything for us!
@FlyingsCool
Your tone comes across as arrogant and dismissive, implying that anyone who dares to question Microsoft and Asoboâs decisions is somehow ungrateful. Critical thinking and constructive criticism are essential for improvement, and blindly accepting everything without question is not only unhealthy but also stagnates progress.
âLetâs appreciate what Microsoft and Asobo have given us and leave it at that,â. By that logic we should never question anything in the world, and simply accept the status quo without striving for better. Thatâs not how innovation works, and itâs certainly not how a community-driven platform like a flight simulator should operate. Furthermore, your analogy to music copyrights is a stretch. the fact that music is protected by copyright doesnât mean that it canât be remixed, sampled, or covered â in fact, these practices are common and often lead to new and innovative creations. This isnât just about flight models, Itâs impossible for livery creators to create high quality liveries as they used to be able to in every version of Flightsim and X-Plane, You canât even customize something so simple as the camera.cfg file as thatâs encrypted as well!
You also seem to be ignoring the fact that every previous version of Microsoft Flight Simulator has been moddable, and that this community has thrived on the ability to customize and improve the game. Itâs only with this new version that Asobo has decided to lock down the simulator to an extent we havenât seen before, and itâs puzzling that youâre defending this decision so vehemently.
Itâs clear that youâre more interested in defending Microsoft and Asoboâs decisions than in engaging in a constructive discussion about the future of the flight simulator community. I hope that in the future, youâll be more open to listening to the concerns and ideas of others, rather than simply dismissing them with a condescending tone.
Iâm sure the Microsoft and Asobo teams think I come across that way, too. Sorry about thatâŠ
sigh
You might, however, want to read through all of my posts. The central theme being, yes, I want FS to be moddable, too.
But, if youâre questioning my comments regarding the legality of copyrights, sorry, Iâm going to stand with the developers. If they want to share the code they wrote, great! But if not, I fully support that.
As several developers have shown in 2020, itâs entirely possible to mod a plane thatâs encrypted, and create a whole new flight model for the plane. Asking Microsoft to break their legal contracts with developers for some people to get a head start is just⊠lazy.
If you think thatâs an arrogant point of view⊠sorry.
sigh the theatrics are noted, though hardly convincing. It seems my comments about your dismissive tone struck a nerve, didnât they? Sorry about thatâŠ
Iâve read through your posts donât worry maybe you should try doing the same with mine
Regarding the legality of copyrights, no one is questioning the developersâ right to protect their intellectual property. However, we are questioning the decision to lock down the simulator to the extent that it stifles creativity and innovation. The fact that developers have managed to mod encrypted planes is not a justification for the current state of affairs; itâs a testament to the communityâs ingenuity and determination.
As iâve already said in my previous comment, basic things such as creating high quality liveries are not possible in the current state of the Sim. The best you can do is work with the LOD1 model instead of the LOD0 which is sub-optimal and leads to a lot of Problems. You canât even edit the camera.cfg to change your views. Something so simple which causes no harm to anybody.
Asking Microsoft to provide a more open and moddable platform is not about getting a âhead startâ or being âlazy.â Itâs about creating a thriving community that can contribute to the simulatorâs growth and improvement. By dismissing these concerns and labeling them as âlazy,â youâre ignoring the very real impact that the current restrictions are having on the community.