FACILITY DATA AIRPORT.RUNWAY missing ILS info

[MSFS 2024] Bug Reports SimConnect
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Version: SDK V1.1.2 MSFS2024 V 1.2.11

Frequency: Always

Severity: High

Similar MSFS 2020 issue: not checked

Context: FACILITY DATA AIRPORT.RUNWAY missing ILS info

Attachments: N/A, but can be provided upon request

Bug description:

FACILITY DATA AIRPORT.RUNWAY missing ILS info
at least one, did not checked further so far but likely the problem persists …

Note: I have a DISABLED marketplace LSZH from 2020 in the streamed list
may be this is causing some issues - but as it is disabled it should be disabled…
I cannot otherwise remove this airport for testing.

some other airports I’ve checked return such ILS IDs

Request for FACILITY DATA for AIRPORT.RUNWAY of LSZH returns:

LSZH Runway 10/28 plain MSFS204 content

        ALTITUDE    422.9990234375  double
        LATITUDE    47.457773834466934  double
        LONGITUDE   8.5539378225803375  double
        PRIMARY_DESIGNATOR  0   int
        PRIMARY_ILS_ICAO    ""  string
        PRIMARY_ILS_REGION  ""  string
        PRIMARY_ILS_TYPE    0   int
        PRIMARY_NUMBER  10  int
        RwLength_m  2516.89258  float
        RwWidth_m   60  float
        SECONDARY_DESIGNATOR    0   int
-->     SECONDARY_ILS_ICAO  ""  string  SHOULD BE IZW
-->     SECONDARY_ILS_REGION    ""  string  SHOULD BE LS
        SECONDARY_ILS_TYPE  0   int
        SECONDARY_NUMBER    28  int
        SURFACE 0   int

LSZH Runway 14/32 plain MSFS204 content

        ALTITUDE    423.00003051757813  double
        LATITUDE    47.472192049026489  double
        LONGITUDE   8.5495729744434357  double
        PRIMARY_DESIGNATOR  0   int
-->     PRIMARY_ILS_ICAO    ""  string  SHOULD BE IKL
-->     PRIMARY_ILS_REGION  ""  string  SHOULD BE LS
        PRIMARY_ILS_TYPE    0   int
        PRIMARY_NUMBER  14  int
        RwLength_m  3303.29761  float
        RwWidth_m   60  float
        SECONDARY_DESIGNATOR    0   int
        SECONDARY_ILS_ICAO  ""  string
        SECONDARY_ILS_REGION    ""  string
        SECONDARY_ILS_TYPE  0   int
        SECONDARY_NUMBER    32  int
        SURFACE 0   int

LSZH Runway 16/34 plain MSFS204 content

        ALTITUDE    422.9990234375  double
        LATITUDE    47.460639104247093  double
        LONGITUDE   8.5463185608387 double
        PRIMARY_DESIGNATOR  0   int
-->     PRIMARY_ILS_ICAO    ""  string  SHOULD BE IZH
-->     PRIMARY_ILS_REGION  ""  string  SHOULD BE LS
        PRIMARY_ILS_TYPE    0   int
        PRIMARY_NUMBER  16  int
        RwLength_m  3716.02246  float
        RwWidth_m   60  float
        SECONDARY_DESIGNATOR    0   int
-->     SECONDARY_ILS_ICAO  ""  string  SHOULD BE IZS
-->     SECONDARY_ILS_REGION    ""  string  SHOULD BE LS
        SECONDARY_ILS_TYPE  0   int
        SECONDARY_NUMBER    34  int
        SURFACE 0   int

Impact: High, as the ILS is not reported how to find out which
one is located there ???

2

This is a common problem as scenery devs replace the runway with their own, and don’t add an <IlsReference /> in the XML. Runway Definition Properties

3

Thanks

only the addon is marked Disabled - so it should not be loaded at all??

With active ones this is causing then all kind of trouble I assume…

I’ll check with SU1beta (installed it just a minute ago)

EDIT
did not change - still no ILS entries in SU1 (V1.3.10)

4

I am not sure exactly about LSZH, but some of the hand-built airports that ship with the sim do break navdata in various ways unfortunately. It is worth reporting these so they can eventually all get fixed.

The workaround I have used to find the ILS for a runway is to look through ILS approaches for the airport + runway, and get the recommended navaid from the final leg of the approach.

5

I can confirm the same issue, and fixed it by disabling this package:
image

6

I will ‘borrow’ this one… thank you
Adding to the list of patches to be applied…

So it is the base apt not the ‘disabled’ one that fails

7

Hello @bm98 @tracernz

This particular case cannot be solved on our side and needs to be reported through Zendesk.
However, we can probably add a warning in the SceneryEditor when a runway has an empty IlsReference and a corresponding ILS exists.

Regards,
Sylvain