MSFS 2020 airplanes - Livery Selection & Configuration BUG

[SimbolFSReborn]

Version: 1.0.87.0

Frequency: Consistently

Severity: BLOCKER

Marketplace package name: Sting S4, FSR500 and TL3000

Context: Sting S4, FSR500 and TL3000, mounted from Community, livery selections

Bug description:
MSFS 2024 is not remembering the livery selection and configuration made by the user for any MSFS 2020 aircraft.

Example, I have configured and saved the liveries I want for FSR500, TL3000 and S4 as you can see below:

Go back to select a flight:

Note there is no photo of what the user has selected, never the less I selected the FSR500 to flight:

I finished my flight, quit to desktop via menu, next launch

All liveries are back to an scrambled state, not remembering anything I have done to them, the system doesn’t even remeber what aircraft I used, and default to S4 and a livery I didn’t used last time. It seems it always scrambles all the liveries to this state…

In my opinion, this should be fixed before release as otherwise all users of the simulator will experience this bug since their MSFS 2020 will be mounted automatically when their Library is loaded with all their products they own from the previous MSFS version, and this means their airplanes and liveries selections will be always random as you can see above, this would hinge their experience and annoy the users, not great for a 1st day release IMO.

NOTE: Liveries selection are not coming in the correct other either, it should be following the flight.N like it did back in MSFS 2020…

Repro steps:
As above.

Best Regards,
Raul

[SimbolFSReborn]

This remains on 1.0.88. Exactly the same.

Best,
Raul

[LyonHaart001]

@EPellissier

Eric, is this the system now that will be used on the release version of 2024 on the Livery Selection?

If so, how does it take its order?

Many thanks. Congrats on it working again.

That new selection window is utterly beautiful. Makes the planes look so awesome…

Bill
Lionheart Creations

[EPellissier]

@LyonHaart001,

DevAlpha 1.0.88.0 is nearly identical to the launch build (same fixes, same bugs).

So yes the Aircraft Selector / Configurator will be working in the same way in the launch build. Unfortunately the World Map will also display the placeholder icon (but it should be fixed quickly).

The main tiles are created by grouping aircraft according to their “icao_model” + “ui_createdby”. I suspect the liveries are sorted alphabetically but I’ll have to double check the code (I cannot do it right now but will get back to you on this).

Best regards,

Eric / Asobo

[SimbolFSReborn]

Hi @EPellissier

As a feedback we order liveries using the flight.n because we have a control over what we want the user to see 1st, prior to 2024 we could not group liveries for aircraft types, for example we need to put liveries for aircraft that uses the GTN750, and liveries that dont, due to the way panel.cfg and panel.xml needs to be done for each (totaly different).

So for example in MSFS 2020 I have placed the liveries in an order that makes sense for the user to find thing easier, for an instance: Livery A followed by Livery A GTN, Livery B followed by Livery B GTN, etc.

When this is done alphabetically they scramble around and is more difficult to find what you looking for IMO. Specially when a new customer just purchased your aircraft, they don’t know the livery titles, nobody really do, they just looking for something that looks pleasing to their eyes, but they need to chose the correct one for the avionics they need.

This changes of course in MSFS 2024 with the modular approach since we can do groups based on avionics now, but until we fully convert we are a bit stuck with the liveries for the time being.

Best,
Raul

[LyonHaart001]

Many thanks, @EPellissier

Bill
LHC

[LyonHaart001]

@EPellissier ,

What @SimbolFSReborn wrote above, I do this also. I have certain planes I want to show up first. Its like a very specific order. My least fave planes I want to show last in the lineup, and first ones the best, so at first glance, possible customers see the best ones first.

Perhaps there is a way to do this easily in the ICAO? Perhaps simply starting with a Number or Letter and that will restore our photos / Livery order for how they appear in 2024? That would be Awesome…

And thanks again for the heads up on how the order works.

Bill

[LyonHaart001]

I did some testing…

I added a icao_model= string to each Livery section in the aircraft config, and that didnt effect it.

I then added a number to each of the model Variants, but that did nothing also.

I wonder how its choosing these?

[RoscoHead]

@EPellissier

The main tiles are created by grouping aircraft according to their “icao_model” + “ui_createdby”.

I would suggest this is a useful tidbit to include in the documentation

[FlyingsCool]

…and should be reviewed based on how people actually like their library organized and changed appropriately. Sorry to be so forward about this, but, it’s really important to me, as I have 100’s of planes and liveries to choose from, and this change throws everything away and creates a complete mess.

I definitely have favorites, and sort my liveries in each plane appropriately. What really irks me is including the “white” liveries used by livery creators as actual planes to choose, and they show up in parking spots.