New runway - no procedures selectable in EFB

Version: 1.3.23.0

Frequency: Consistently

Severity: Blocker

Bug description:
When the runways on a stock airport are outdated, and you use a third-party scenery to update them (changing runway idents and/or adding new runways), you see the new runways in the EFB. Still, you can´t select procedures for these new runways (arrival, departure, etc.).

Repro steps:

Attachments:
3rd party scenery for VOBL - all runways are selectable - in the stock scenery, you have only 09L/27R, but 09R/27L is completely missing:


… from the stock Inibuild A321:
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When you select runway 09L (which is present in the stock scenery) - you can select the procedures:


… and again from the stock Inibuild A321:
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When you do the same with the newly added 09R (which is NOT present in the stock scenery) - you see and can´t select any even when the procedures are included in the data:


… and also here from the stock Inibuild A321:
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In short, even when the runways are available (correct runway idents and/or correct airport layout), and the procedures are included in the BGLs, you can´t select any procedures for these new runways—not in the EFB nor in any other stock aircraft.

You see in the NAX68270 file that these procedures are included with the correct runway 09R, but this procedure (and all others) is not selectable, even when they exist in the data.

The third-party scenery package will be loaded correctly and has the new package_order_hint in the manifest file. The scenery will be loaded correctly (you see that all runways are available). So, it´s not a third-party scenery issue nor a third-party data issue—it looks like the MSFS2024 uses only the stock scenery for the linkage between procedure and runways and doesn´t use the third-party scenery as the root scenery.

Cheers,
Richard

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Wow, this is really bad. I essentially buy 3rd party scenery only to be able to fly IFR in places where the MSFS 2024 airports are so out of date that they don’t yet have runways that have been around for years in the real world.

I really hope this gets prioritized soon, because it fundamentally breaks a core expectation of the product.

Hello @NAVData

This is fixed with SU2 beta 1.4.7.0.
Please have a look and let us know if this is good for you.

Regards,
Sylvain

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Wow, Sylvain, much appreciated… thank you very much for this fast fix. I am currently downloading the SU2 beta and will report back the result!

Thank you VERY! much for this fast answer and, of course, the fix …

Cheers,
Richard

Hello,

The following changelog entry of ours was unfortunately dropped from the changelog, but describes the fix:

Improved handling of navdata for runways that do not exist in the sim. The resolution is now only done after all scenery layers are loaded, and only transitions will be removed rather than full procedures where possible.

@tracernz can speak more to the topic if you require. Glad to hear the fix is working for you!

Thanks,
Matt

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This is fantastic! I honestly wasn’t expecting this to be addressed so quickly, but I did go over the release notes hoping for a miracle and was a little disappointed when it wasn’t there. I’m really happy to see the “fixed” label here now. Thanks everyone!

Hi Sylvain,
Hi Matt,
I can confirm this is fixed in the latest SU2 beta.

Here is the same EFB screenshot as before, but now with SU2 beta 1.4.9.0:

… and also here from the stock Inibuild A321:
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Thank you very much for this fast fix. It is much appreciated.

Cheers,
Richard

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