Version: SU/AAU/WU XX - 1.XX.XX.X
Frequency: Once/Rarely/Frequently/Consistently
Severity: Blocker
Context: engine will no longer start with this section removed
Bug description:
moding engine data in AE removes TURBOPROP_ENGINE section
Repro steps:
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Hello @DA40CGDFQ
Are you editing a parameter in particular for this to happen?
Also, can you provide us with your engines.cfg file in case this is the result of a specific combination of values?
(We use the TBM 930 for regression testing on turbo props but this did not happen.)
Regards,
Sylvain
Same issue on our Mini-500, we’ve resorted to not using AE for the meantime.
It indeed removes the following and we need to manually re-add it every use of AE:
;[REMOVED][TURBOPROP_ENGINE]
;[REMOVED]tp_high_idle_throttle_pos=0
;[REMOVED]power_scalar = 0.145 ; GG > 115HP > Scalar on Turboprop power
;[REMOVED]maximum_torque = 900 ; Maximum torque available (ft-lbs)
;[REMOVED]torque_automatic_limit= 900
;[REMOVED]engine_friction_table = -10:-0.2, 0:0, 10:0.5, 70:0.5, 105:0.5 ; Rpm -> Friction torque
;[REMOVED]n1_to_shaft_torque_table = 0:0, 66:0.05, 100:0.65, 110:1.1 ; Corrected N1 -> Shaft Torque
;[REMOVED]rated_shaft_hp = 674
;[REMOVED]PowerSpecificFuelConsumption = 0.66 ; SFC
;[REMOVED]tp_idle_range = 0.00 ; increase of n1 idle at high mixture (Percent)
;[REMOVED]free_turbine = 1
[TURBINEENGINEDATA]
;[REMOVED]reverser_available = 0
;[REMOVED]reverser_mach_controlled = 0
;[REMOVED]afterburner_throttle_threshold = 0.011
;[REMOVED]ThrustSpecificFuelConsumption = 0.008
;[REMOVED]AfterBurnThrustSpecificFuelConsumption = 0.008
;[REMOVED]mach_0_corrected_commanded_ne_table = 0.000000:1.000000:12.000000,0.000000:22.000000:27.000000,0.020000:70.000000:75.000000,0.166667:74.800003:79.830002,0.333333:79.699997:84.669998,0.500000:84.500000:89.500000,0.666667:89.300003:94.330002,0.833333:94.199997:99.169998,1.000000:99.000000:104.000000
;[REMOVED]mach_hi_corrected_commanded_ne_table = 0.900000:1.000000:12.000000,0.000000:20.000000:25.000000,0.020000:68.000000:73.000000,0.166667:72.833336:77.830002,0.333333:77.666664:82.669998,0.500000:82.500000:87.500000,0.666667:87.333336:92.330002,0.833333:92.166664:97.169998,1.000000:97.000000:102.000000
;[REMOVED]corrected_n2_from_ff_table = 0.000000:0.000000, 0.002940:5.000000, 0.011800:10.000000, 0.020660:15.000000, 0.033970:20.000000, 0.053170:30.000000, 0.133910:80.000000, 0.257710:90.000000, 0.540000:100.000000, 0.686860:105.000000
;[REMOVED]n2_to_n1_table = 0.000000:0.000000:0.900000,0.000000:0.000000:0.000000,10.000000:2.000000:9.200000,20.000000:7.000000:14.600000,30.000000:10.200000:20.000000,40.000000:15.100000:24.700001,50.000000:20.100000:32.000000,60.000000:28.000000:41.799999,70.000000:38.000000:53.200001,80.000000:52.000000:67.500000,90.000000:70.000000:80.800003,100.000000:89.400002:100.800003,110.000000:112.000000:120.000000
;[REMOVED]epr_max = 0
;[REMOVED]epr_tc = 14
;[REMOVED]itt_peak_temperature = 2100
;[REMOVED]density_on_torque_table = 0.000225:0.100000, 0.0005:0.1, 0.0008:0.25, 0.00110:0.65,0.00155:1.0, 0.002378:1.330000
;[REMOVED]density_on_ff_table=0.000225:0.100000, 0.001:0.6, 0.001600:0.9500000, 0.002378:1.040000
;[REMOVED]RPM_on_TP_torque_table=1500:1, 1900:0.7895
;[REMOVED]min_n2_for_combustion = 19.4 ; % - Minimum N2 required to maintain a combustion
;[REMOVED]min_n2_for_starter_cutoff = 200 ; % - Minimum N2 at which the starter is automatically disabled
;[REMOVED]low_idle_n2 = 52.00
;[REMOVED]high_n2 = 95.2
;[REMOVED]min_n2_for_fuel_flow = 10
Same Occurrences in Flight_Model.cfg:
[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
;[REMOVED]CG_forward_limit = 0
;[REMOVED]CG_aft_limit = 0.33
[REFERENCE SPEEDS]
;[REMOVED]max_mach = 0.25
Max Mach is important because it controls Xbox Vibration on the Controller… can’t just omit it. This needs to stay defined. If this value is “zero” or undefined it will vibrate uncontrollably.
Download of Original .cfgs:
engines_and_flight_model.zip (8.5 KB)
Hello
Quick update to let you know that with 1.37.8.0, all these issues should be solved.
The CG params mentioned in the last post are not applicable to helicopters.
Let us know if you still see some inconsistencies.
Regards,
Sylvain
Tested,
removed legacy fuel pressure data - tested ok
removed use_commanded_Ne_table - tested ok
Added propellor data for turbine helo
[PROPELLER]
propeller_type = 0
propeller_diameter = 6.883
propeller_blades = 2
propeller_moi = 0
beta_max = 65
beta_min = 15
min_gov_rpm = 0
prop_tc = 0.1
gear_reduction_ratio = 1
low_speed_theory_limit = 80
fixed_pitch_beta = 20
power_propeller_absorbed_cf = 1
is this required for helo?