Why do I get a CTD when I hit build and have a modelLib in the scenery?

This only started happening with the latest version of MSFS and SDK. The
program crashes to desktop every time I try and build an airport scenery, new
or older, that contains a uniquename_modelLib file. I tried to create a new
simple airport without the modelLib and a CTD does not happen. As soon as I
added a *_modelLib, even blank without an object in it, it CRASHes. Not once
in a while, but every time.

MSFS 1.33.8.0 SDK 0.21.1.0 Device name
DESKTOP-2VVN6U4 Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor 3.70 GHz
Installed RAM 64.0 GB Device ID EB67D740-C3E6-4227-9BE5-EFDAFD789B78 Product
ID 00326-00765-00000-AAOEM System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based
processor Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
Edition Windows 11 Home Version 22H2 Installed on ‎2022-‎12-‎06 OS build
22621.1848 Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22642.1000.0 /
CRASH /!/ OnCrash:  Msg=WinMain Engine:  UnscaledDeltaTimeMs=19
TimeSpentRunningMs=5668629  TimeSpentPauseOffMs=5666185
TimeSpentTurnedOnMs=5666185  ContextUID=0x935E3D36D5474EAA
MemInfoUID=0x91AFB9DC84F3769  DebuggerAllowed=No  AllocatedMem=6286483456
FrameCount=214025  BuildVersion=1.33.8.0  IsMSIXVC=1  FreeOpenOpsCount-
Main=1024  FreeOpenOpsCount-Thread=1007 Hardware:  Platform=PC
Cpu=AuthenticAMD  Brand=AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor
DriverVersion=53623  GPUName=NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti  HWS Enabled=1 Fibers:
NumCreated(TOTAL)=592  NumExternalCreated=336  NumConverted=47
NumExternalConverted=24  NumCreatedFiberMgr=256 Renderer:  EnableD3D12=No
PreferD3D12=No  Model=Nvidia  VR State=Inactive  VideoMemoryBudget=7615807488
TexturesToDeleteCount=0  TexturesToDeleteTotalSize=18446744072819216288
CrashGPU=No MemoryTrace:  HeapSize=68623884288  FreeTotal=53891313664
FreeKernel=0  UsedKernel=0  FreeGfx=0  UsedGfx=0  DataFormat=
CoherentGT_CachesMiB:  RenoirScratchLayer=11.75  RenoirScratchTexture=3.984375
RenoirTexture=21.961696  MainResource=0.050539  ImageResource=287.474997
CSSStyleSheet=1.219519  Script=5.416649  FontResource=0.944028
SVGFontResource=0.002965 FlightSimulator:  DevMode=On  ObjectsLOD=2.
TerrainLOD=2.  UserContainerTitle=Aviat Husky A-1C Floats  Latitude=48.57922
Longitude=-122.82388  Altitude=21.912078  IsOnGround=true
CamLatitude=48.579322  CamLongitude=-122.823783  CamAltitude=137.341872
GameMode=FLIGHT_INGAME  States= MainState:GAME SubState:GAME_PLAY
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Little Navmap FlightSimulator_States:  188882= MainState:GAME
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Departure=TT:AIRPORTEK.KORS.name 48.70597 -122.909645  Arrival= 0. 0.
NetBingObj1:  Name_Z=4251313459698140505  Type=NoTypeInfo  Latitude=48.579322
Longitude=-122.823783 NetBingObj1_MainLocker:  LockerType=NoTypeInfo  MinLod=1
MinLodForTask=8  DisplayMaxLod=23  LockMaxLod=23
LockTileWorldPos=-2291665.290089,-3552728.795334,4759840.814888
MapControl_Latitude=0.158822  MapControl_Longitude=0.345195
MapControl_Altitude=137.341872 NetBingObj2:  Name_Z=15017183187211727716
Type=NoTypeInfo  Latitude=48.57922  Longitude=-122.82388  DisplayLod=13
RadiusInMeters=6574  RadiusInMercator=1000  MercatorNorth=0  MercatorWest=0
MercatorEast=0  MercatorSouth=0 NetBingObj2_MainLocker:  LockerType=NoTypeInfo
MinLod=1  MinLodForTask=8  DisplayMaxLod=13  LockMaxLod=13
LockTileWorldPos=-2291626.582357,-3552655.688491,4759730.374023 NetBingObj3:
Name_Z=7111327160565694716  Type=NoTypeInfo  Latitude=48.70573
Longitude=-122.909385  DisplayLod=18446744073347973748  RadiusInMeters=1000
RadiusInMercator=1000  MercatorNorth=0  MercatorWest=0  MercatorEast=0
MercatorSouth=0 NetBingObj3_MainLocker:  LockerType=NoTypeInfo  MinLod=1
MinLodForTask=8  DisplayMaxLod=20  LockMaxLod=20
LockTileWorldPos=-2291627.000448,-3552656.343988,4759731.251998
MapControl_Latitude=0.158822  MapControl_Longitude=0.345196
MapControl_Altitude=1.172729 Frames:  Version=5  LastFrames=64
LastSeconds=256  ExpectedFPS=60
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You will be later asked to provide the team the crash dump and/or the project
crashing the game, In the meantime, have you tried to compile your project
with the fspackagetool? Could be more verbose than a ctd (Also hope you are
creating the project and its AssetGroup within the project editor and not with
some copy/paste in notepad )

Hello sir; big fan of your videos, and thankful for your help. It happens to
all my projects that have a modelLib. I even tested with a brand new airport.
First I created a simple airport without the modelLib and it seemed to compile
properly. Then I added the asset group as usual. (I have done over 30 airports
see MazerMart on flightsim.to) Perhaps it is my GPU
driver? But it happened with the latest updated version of SDK.?? I have not
tried the fspackagetool as I am not aware how to do so. I also do create the
AssetGroup from using the add assetgroup… etc and am not copy and pasting
anything from notepad. Thanks

Hello @MazerMart , Did you try to remove all your assets from the modellib
folder? Same issue? As we were unable to reproduce this behavior, we will need
a crash dump file (see section 2)
here
) and the project in a private comment (see section 3)
Provide Private
Content
).

Regards,
Boris

yes I tried with and without assets/ I will forward the dump. thanks

I made sure my community folder was empty and created a new airport project.
First I created one without modellib and received a message about “ingestion”,
whatever that is. It asked me if I understand and to check as understood. I do
not but checked anyway. I assume it could not find any assets. However, it did
not CTD. Then I added an asset cyes_ModelLib, saved and hit built. It crashed
immediately. (same as others) I used Registry Editor to find the directory for
the dump, but I don’t understand how to find the exact dump required, and make
it number 2 type (full). I could use some extra direction on how to do the
dump. See image of my local dump directory. :slight_smile:

Experiencing similar issues with CTD when building. If I build with a new
scenery project before adding any assets, thats OK. But a CTD every time I
build after adding assets. Fortunately doing a Save seems to update the
project packages without the need for a build.

Hello @MazerMart You want to create the keys to enable dump file in this
folder so that it looks like this (with the DumpFolder path you want)

You can either do this manually
or run the script that was provided in the post linked by Boris. Regards,
Sylvain

Thank you. I do appreciate the help, however, being new to this process it is
about as clear to me as mud. How do I create "key"s? Do I need to be in
notepad or something. I see no way of editing or creating as asked. Maybe I’m
a visual learner. Any videos available on the net? Once I create this file
with keys, do I recreate the ctd again? Will it automatically go to that
location? ?? :slight_smile:

Ingestion has to do with creating the appropriate stuff needed for “ingestion”
into the Marketplace. I assume you are creating a project for sale in the
Marketplace?

no but giving free on Flightsim.to

Hi Boris… I am lost trying to get the dump. I am not a programmer; do not
know coding etc, so unfortunately, I need more specifics on how to create the
dump. Once I have the file, I can use wetransfer to send it, or attach it…
whatever. But this problem continues to happen and I have tried various
things. I get no warnings, just CTD… every time I hit “Build”. Thanks in
advance for your attention on this… :slight_smile:

Hello @AlpineBravo Would it be possible for you to provide us with a project
that triggers the CTD [See 3) Provide Private
Content](https://devsupport.flightsimulator.com/articles/5483/how-to-report-a-
bug-or-crash.html) Also we will need a crash dump file ( See [section 2)
here](https://devsupport.flightsimulator.com/articles/5483/how-to-report-a-
bug-or-crash.html)). Thank you. Regards, Boris

Yes of course… however, my problem is that I don’t understand how to create a
crash dump, even with the link. It tells me very little about how to proceed
step by step. (in Notepad or not… how to edit?? ) thanks

Boy, I’m feeling stupid. I can send a project by wetransfer but to whom? What
email address?

A big thanks for your patience. :slight_smile:

It appears I had the same output directory name for both BGL and ModelLib.
Thanks for everyone’s assistance.

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Thank you for the feedback :slight_smile:

Regards,
Boris

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