Wing Body Incidence Issue

@Boris @EPellissier (anyone?)

Wonder if anyone can help with this ?
see the image below … Showing -7 Degrees body to wing incidence


In the FDE Flight_model.cfg The Aircraft Geometry is definiteley set at +2 Degrees wing incidence as per documentation
So any clues to where the additional
negative 9 degrees is coming from ???

@Boris @EPellissier

PLEASE Tell me that nobody with the slightest clue has read this ???
DEV SUPPORT FORUM ???
:joy:

Hello @NightMercury358

It’s hard to be sure without having a look at your aircraft but this sort of things can happen during the normalization process as it will try to correct an incidence it considers incorrect.
For example, this can happen if your zero lift AOA is very high, due to a misconfigured lift / AOA table.

Regards,
Sylvain

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@FlyingRaccoon

Zero Lift Aoa MAX is 1.4
lift_coef_aoa_table = -3.15:0.0,-0.80:-1.145,0.0:0.50,0.276805:1.4,3.15:0.0

and as already stated, the Incidence is set at 2 Degrees positive

Can you give us access to your package so we have a look?
Follow section 3 of these guidelines if you are willing to: How to report a bug or crash - [MSFS 2024] Bug Reports - MSFS DevSupport

Regards,
Sylvain

@FlyingRaccoon

It really is a MASSIVE Package ..
can you not investigate from the Flight_Model.cfg ?
I cant see how anything else would be relevant

Check if using your flight model on the Simple Aircraft SDK sample is enough to replicate the problem and you can just send the cfg if that’s the case.

checking Thanks

@FlyingRaccoon
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BN2 flight_model.cfg applied to sample MySimple aircraft

The Wide Incidence Offset is still apparent ..

PM Sent with our flight_model file

Incidentally I have discovered that the same anomaly applies to the SDK Aircraft also
including the DA62 and Basic my aircraft model …

Converted this to a bug report and I will have one of our flight model engineers have a look.

Regards,
Sylvain

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@FlyingRaccoon Much appreciated

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@FlyingRaccoon
Happy to report that the issue appears to be fixed in 1.5.2.0 (May 21st)

Many thanks for speedy turnaround

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Glad to hear it :wink:

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@FlyingRaccoon
Hmm Bad news .. Version 1.5.4.0

Sureley the wing/tail - Body incidence should Never change ??
Wing incidence is SET at 2.3 degrees and the HStab set at -2
why is thius confusing graph showing such crazy details ?
and why is the Wing chord almost Fuselage length ?

Hello @NightMercury358

This is with the exact same cfg you provided in the first place?

Regards,
Sylvain

I think stabilities and the ai.cfg have been tweaked but the General Dimensions and angles remain the same..

Whats confusing me mainly is the fact that the wing (in the diagram) appears to be Disconnected from the fuselage ? It should remain 2.3 degrees although yes I appreciate the AoA would change

PS.. the wing area is shown as 30.2 ?? where it is actually 325 Sqft

It’s reporting in square meters

AHH .. I guess that is for consistency then :slight_smile:

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I so wish they gave us a laughing emoji response… :wink: :laughing:
It seems like a huge problem we’ve been dealing with since day one is mixed units used in programming (and in aviation in general).

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Some additional fixes will be made on the debug.
There are some units inconsistencies indeed.

Regarding the incidence value changing, the debug label is misleading.
It should be named “root wing incidence” instead and it is impacted by the position of the flaps.

Regards,
Sylvain

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